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Post by JM on Feb 21, 2007 10:42:35 GMT
I was browsing through the books for maybe the hundreth time and realised (in that obvious way that you don't think about even though you should have), that Australia is one of the few true locations where the ideal CyberPunk Utopia would florish.
A huge land mass, a few pockets of civilization surrounded by wastelands of both land and sea. As a realistic Aussie CyberPunk I can see how bad the polution is going to get eventually as well as how our increasing reliance in technology is changing the way we live, so it's fairly easy to see the Nylon Angel\Parrish Plessis verson of Australia becoming a reality.
But what of the rest of the near-futuristic world? What other countries have the potential to become such haven of technology and dispair?
I'm on par with William Gibson when it comes to Japan, so much Tech and they throw all of their garbage into the sea to make new land. Perfect for cyborg design and rouge bands of genetically altered yakuza. So they get a cybernetic star.
Russia gets the next star. Full blown nuclear power already, a history of despotic reigiems to help the people feel opressed (can anybody else say The Tert), and large quantities of junkyard just begging for gangs of cyborgs and insane genetic engieers to build a home.
So who should get the rest of the cybernetic stars?
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Post by Chirugal on Feb 21, 2007 16:16:25 GMT
Hi, innatemalk, welcome to the Patch! You're our 100th member, congratulations! I like this thread - I agree with you on Aus/Russia/Japan (there were a lot of things I didn't like about Neuromancer, which is the only Gibson book I've read, but I thought the Japan side of it was well-portrayed). I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Middle East. I can imagine it burning itself out in a few hundred years, and what with all the warfare that's been going on around there for so long, plus I could imagine vigilante groups fighting over whatever remains of the oil... Add futuristic technology to the mix, and that could be pretty horrific. I'd also quite like to say the UK as well, just because it's my country and I know it well - we're overcrowded and it wouldn't take much to throw us into chaos (can anybody say '28 Days Later'? Though zombies aren't very cyberpunk, I guess...). Even getting a few inches of snow grinds our entire country to a halt while everyone panics over the state of the transport networks, even though it snows every winter. I dread to think what'd happen if anything more serious came up!
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Post by JM on Feb 21, 2007 16:34:27 GMT
(can anybody say '28 Days Later'? Though zombies aren't very cyberpunk, I guess...). Cyborg zombie soldiers are part of the invader zim cartoons, and resident evil has both cyberpunk and zombie elements, although they don't say zombie in either movie. The idea of of the zombie is not just occult but possibilities of transhumanism or genteic manipulation.
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Post by Chirugal on Feb 21, 2007 19:33:28 GMT
Then I stand by my zombie analogy! ;D
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Post by marianne on Feb 21, 2007 22:53:22 GMT
Hi innatemalk, you are special! Member number 100! I have written about this auspicious occasion at mdep.livejournal.com/What about India? that would be some kind of cyberpunk chaos.
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Post by JM on Feb 21, 2007 23:15:56 GMT
What do I win? A copy of your new book when it comes out?
India is a good idea, it fits with the three cyberpunk characteristics; pollution, technology and politics. I hadn't thought about that one.
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Post by marianne on Feb 22, 2007 0:51:55 GMT
I think that seems fitting! Send me your address via my website addy:
marianne @ mariannedepierres.com
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Post by Sheyana on Feb 22, 2007 1:25:24 GMT
How come you're showing up as a guest Marainne?
Hi Innatemalk...thanks to you we finally broke the 100!
As for the CyberPunk Utopias...there are the various countries we hear about that are doing nuclear testing...North Korea and Iran etc. (I can easily see them having massive explosions due to flaws in production or something and becoming more of a mutant society, possibly not quite a CyberPunk Utopia)
Don't know who else...
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Post by JM on Feb 22, 2007 8:30:06 GMT
Germany looks like it has good CP oppertunities, thrives on subcultures and is technologically obsessed. Good for both CyberPunk and the Post-apocalyptic realms.
I've been trying to build a map of all these places, the world is looking pretty dark so far.
I won't include America on the list, at the rate things are going it's going to end up an irradiated wasteland more on the lines of Blade Runner than a proper CP utopia.
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Post by alphie on Mar 12, 2007 21:44:56 GMT
What about India? that would be some kind of cyberpunk chaos. Absolutely. India is a very wealthy country and the separation of the very poor and the super-rich is huge. I'm also going along with Chirugal's Middle East suggestion
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