GrimmRiffer
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Post by GrimmRiffer on Sept 22, 2005 23:09:40 GMT
If you train you *get* bendy. Gawd, yer only 16, you'd adapt in WEEKS! 'course, creaky old granny Chir' might take a little longer. Hell I'm actually a ... few ... months older than Chir and I'm coping. Everyone should do kickboxing.
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Post by Sheyana on Sept 22, 2005 23:49:39 GMT
LOL, I'll take that under advisement then...I reckon it'd be funny to see 'creaky old granny Chir' giving it a go (Since she's so old 'n all)
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Post by Chirugal on Sept 23, 2005 21:30:02 GMT
OLD GRANNY CHIR?! I'm twenty! Twenty!! *lol* I can't even touch my toes though. ... just as a thought, any of you guys know anything about judo?
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Darkhorse
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Post by Darkhorse on Sept 24, 2005 2:00:24 GMT
Hey GR,
Smart move with the ribs. It's a long trip from floor to jaw with your no matter how good you are.
Chir, What do you want to know about judo?
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Post by Chirugal on Sept 24, 2005 17:39:35 GMT
Well... *clears throat for lengthy story*
I have a fanfic going, and in it there's a thirteen-year-old girl who started judo when she was six and was forced by circumstances to discontinue it at age ten. But now she's getting back into it (informally, without a proper instructor). So I was wondering how much stuff she'd be able to do, and how to describe it.
Does that make any sense at all? I posted on an LJ community but the people on it were all unfriendly and scary... >_<
*lol*
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GrimmRiffer
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Post by GrimmRiffer on Sept 26, 2005 21:30:38 GMT
Judo can be thought of as "competition rules for ju jitsu" which allow people to compete, have a clear winner, and not be killed in doing so. It's almost more a sport than a martial art and as such judo-ka train in order to win fights held under contrived rules - same as all combat sports. To win a judo match you need to either throw the other guy on their back, or pin both their shoulders to the ground for twenty seconds, or have them in a controlled hold or lock for twenty seconds. If you fail to do either then you both get points for every second you did manage to pin or lock the opponent or lob them decisively onto their side. You automatically win if the other guy gives up cos something hurts too much.
On top of that, you may not attack the neck as a joint, lock the wrists, or lock the legs. And on top of *that* young kids aren't allowed to do anything other than throw or pin - no locks at all.
I'm telling you that cos that's how she'd have been taught to fight.
Assuming she was into pure judo competition training then in a fight she'd be excellent at some stuff, but in trouble if she came against something totally outside the rules, she may well not be an effective "finisher" unless she threw someone hard enough to end the fight on the spot. She'd hopefully still be fit, and somewhat careless of pain. You can win a fight, if you have time and the opponent has no friends with them, by pinning them until they're completely knackered.
And cos of three years off she'd be a bit rusty. Imagine someone going back to tennis after three years off, flashes of old brilliance but basically getting outclassed to start with.
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Post by Chirugal on Sept 28, 2005 15:30:28 GMT
Thanks GR - this helps. How are you guys so damned knowledgeable about everything?!
Tiny question - what do you mean by 'lock' the wrists and legs? I know how I'd use the word but I'm not sure if that's what you mean. :s
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GrimmRiffer
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Post by GrimmRiffer on Sept 28, 2005 18:29:50 GMT
Hmm, what is a lock... Basically grabbing them in some way that makes it easy for you to hold them where you want and hard for them to do anything about it, sometimes a lock is for control, sometimes to inflict pain, sometimes to inflict damage. The idea is to pit some of your biggest muscles against some of their weakest muscles, and hard bits of your body against soft sensitive bits of theirs.
In judo you can't apply a lock to the person's neck that attacks it like a joint (ie, bends it places it doesn't want to go) but you CAN lock it in such a way that it just crushes the neck (strangling) as long as you use a bit of your arm to apply the pressue, not your hand/fingers. You can apply a lock to the arm that attacks (wrenches, rips, snaps) the elbow and/or shoulder joint, but nothing below the elbow. You may not attack the leg or hip joints at all.
Note that jiu jitsu is a complete system which contains all this stuff that is illegal in judo, but the dynamic violent motion of two people fighting for prizes and very unwilling to relent or give up means that dangerous techniques are bloody dangerous in a competition. Many judo clubs will include some ju jitsu syllabus or run under the same roof as a ju jitsu club and encourage cross training, others will only care about the sport.
And I only know stuff about bikes and fighting. You just so happen to be asking the right questions. ;D
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Post by Chirugal on Sept 28, 2005 20:58:59 GMT
*glomps you* Will you Internet-marry me? XD *lol* Kidding. I've just spent hours trying to track stuff like this down, but all I needed to do was ask here...
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GrimmRiffer
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Post by GrimmRiffer on Sept 29, 2005 22:17:32 GMT
*glomps you* Will you Internet-marry me? XD Wow! Internet wedding? Let's e-lope (see what I did?) over to www.gretnagreen.co.uk right now! What *is* a glomp, BTW? I'm sure it's nice and I'd glomp straight back but for all I know anatomy don't work that way... Don't wanna look silly.
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Post by Chirugal on Sept 29, 2005 22:34:17 GMT
*lmao* Gretna Green, how romantic, let's go! A glomp is kind of like a very overenthusiastic and possibly knock-someone-to-floor hug. So I think you have all the credentials. XD
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Post by GrimmRiffer on Sept 30, 2005 21:34:24 GMT
Glomping seems to go great in a judo related thread...Hup, look over there!! <points>
*Flying GLOMP* ;D
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Post by Chirugal on Oct 1, 2005 16:09:08 GMT
*LOL!* ;D It should be a competitive sport... I have a black belt in glomping!
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GrimmRiffer
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Post by GrimmRiffer on Oct 3, 2005 22:09:24 GMT
Yeah!! They should show it on Men and Motors, they showed K1 and Cage Rage. The commentary would be great: "She opens with a flying glomp, he's down but he's got a half guard and reverses to pull off a half squidge... She's trapped, but I doubt it'll hold her if he can't capitalise ... wait, she bridges and moves for a huggle. That bobbly sweater's really tickling his nose Bob" "Sure is Bob, that's the kind of thing that can make a difference later on in a match if an athlete's been using up their strength trying not to sneeze early on - wait, he's going for a playful rib dig, she's lost the grip and he's put her in a full cradle with tummy burp - She's in trouble!! She's tapped out Bob!!" "What a match Bob" "Sure was Bob..." (Somehow I have to imagine this as a mixed sport. Wouldn't wanna see two guys doing that and won't admit to thinking anything else) Oh God. Is this the best thing I can think to do tonight? Well, I did See land of the dead tonight at least. ;D
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Post by Chirugal on Oct 3, 2005 23:13:54 GMT
I LOVE that! This is officially my favourite post on the entire forum. XD How was Land of the Dead?
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